tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post6833665535353530762..comments2023-10-26T12:47:52.504-04:00Comments on Can't Stop the Monsoon: BREAKDOWN - Shohoku vs. SeirinSollosihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15034829964174631191noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-71985453925981443012023-10-26T12:47:52.504-04:002023-10-26T12:47:52.504-04:00I don't agree with Center and Shoot guard beca...I don't agree with Center and Shoot guard because it favour more on shohoku. I don't know do you know about basketball drills but I will explain why. Mitsui had shot, fadeaway three points(which was only Mibuchi do in knb, even Hyuga consider it was very amazing level of play), double step three points ( step back play was considered barrier jump in knb and it was only use by Hyuga and aslo Hyuga only do one step back. The only person in knb who do double step back is Allen from jabberwock. I am not saying Mitsui is at the level of jabberwock. I just want to point out how skillful Mitsui double step back is even in the term of knb view), force release or one motion jump shot three points (you can see it in the match with sannoh and one on one with Rukawa or in the match with shoyo).<br /><br />As for center Akagi is very strong, he may be as strong as Nebuya from Kuroko because just like Nebuya, Akagi had shake basketball tournament hoop with his dunk, which was considered very powerful move even by Himuro and Murasakibara was a little bit shocked by the fact Nebuya dunk shake basketball tournament hoop. But Akagi is more than strength, he has a lot of post up moves as center. You can even say Akagi is Nebuya with more technique.<br /><br />Kiyoshi had hard time against Nebuya.<br />Imagine how would Kiyoshi would be When he face against Nebuya with more technique.youngYanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12936715594262246630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-51889130358636893572023-10-26T12:34:32.050-04:002023-10-26T12:34:32.050-04:00Very funny thing you just said about height and th...Very funny thing you just said about height and their jumping ability. Both Sakuragi and Rukawa is able to reach top of the backboard of basket with their hands. They are high jumper in Slam Dunk anime. In manga, they are able to reached left leg jumping ability of Kagami which was considered as very amazing even in Kuroko's basket. Kagami is not that much better shooter than Sakuragi. I agree kagami is more experience and has some skill than Sakuragi but compare to Rukawa, Kagami is not that much. Also we do had actual calculated speed for both Rukawa and Kagami. For Rukawa, it was final seconds of the match with sannoh, he run through from base line to other side of court within 2 second. For Kagami, it was final seconds of the match with Kaijo in winter cup, kagami run through near mid court to free throw line within more than 1.1 sec. Calculate speed for both are 10.3m/s(Rukawa), 6.1m/s(kagami). youngYanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12936715594262246630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-36985020758078282582021-10-04T10:02:22.098-04:002021-10-04T10:02:22.098-04:00Second time here lol.
I don't think Seirin wo...Second time here lol. <br />I don't think Seirin would play man to man per position, my guess would be Kiyoshi vs Akagi, Sakuragi vs Kagami, Rukawa vs Kagami, Hyuga vs Mitsui, Izuki vs Miyagi with Kuroko playing the passing lanes as Kagami has shown to have a HUGE defensive range, prob bigger than Murasakibara which is complete bull by itself. Sure Kagami will have a tough time guarding Rukawa (I mean look at what Himuro was doing to him). But Kagami has an absurd recovery, probably better than Sakuragi's. Idk what Shohoku has to answer zone or Kuroko. I feel it'll end VERY similarly to Yosen vs Seirin with Seirin winning via zone and Kuroko.A person with too much time on their handshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155785469444127979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-86316053797215655662020-11-20T19:57:30.917-05:002020-11-20T19:57:30.917-05:00not really, the only big hit Seirin will face is l...not really, the only big hit Seirin will face is likely Kuroko's misdirection overflow and his phamtom drive but that's about it. Zone will probaby just stay the same just a bit weaker but that's about it, besides, experience is also keey here.A person with too much time on their handshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155785469444127979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-24434441855655353742020-11-20T12:25:34.132-05:002020-11-20T12:25:34.132-05:00depends on what universe theyre playing really. if...depends on what universe theyre playing really. if its KNB universe, their feats will dwarf probably most of shohoku's. if its SD/realistic universe, most of seirin's skills will be nullified.<br />nobodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00195173264139984877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-25690388250195057172020-11-20T09:59:41.994-05:002020-11-20T09:59:41.994-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.A person with too much time on their handshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155785469444127979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-21795471805392386212020-11-20T09:58:50.967-05:002020-11-20T09:58:50.967-05:00Alright, very good points however I do have to dis...Alright, very good points however I do have to disagree with a couple things here. 1. Kagami destroys Hanamichi in every category besides rebounding. First off, Kagami is a more complete player, having a better shot than Hanamichi but the difference is almost non existant. Kagami is a much better defender (It wouldn't be far fetched for him to shut down the entire offense in the zone, besides, outside of zone he could easily deal with Rukawa since that's what we should be expecting considering it'll be a ace 1on1) Kagami was capable of shutting down Midorima, Kise (non PC), Himuro (in semi zone), multiple uncrowned kings, need I go on? Athletiscm is actually easy to calculate. Kagami is 190 cm, he headbutted the rim (post training camp). we can assume his eyes is roughly 12.7 cm below the top of his head, therefore 312.7-190=122.7cm. 122.7cm= 48 inches. This is OUTSIDE of zone. In the zone (Mura vs Kagami) Kagami easily got his head above the rim, the average human head is a sixth of the persons head, there fore 190/6 roughly 31 cm. [300 (height of rim) + 31 (his head)] - 190 (the rest of his body) = 141 cm = 55.5 inches!!! His speed feats (I can only calculate his speed in the zone since we haven't seen a calculatable speed scene.) In the zone vs Rakuzan Kagami was around the top third of the paint, the paint is 15 feet long, a thrid of that is 5 feet, the three point line is 19 feet 9 inches. from the FT to 3pt line its 4 feet 9 inches, that means Kagami must travel 9 feet 9 inches in .8 seconds (the rough NBA estimate for spot up shooters since I couldn't find the time it takes for a highschool player to complete his shooting motion) but this part is irrelevant as I couldn't calculate Hanamichi's speed. Hanamichi jumping feat is at the beginning of the series (as he didn't improve his jumping ability throughout the series) where the top of his head is around the rim, 300 cm - 190 cm (Hanamichi height) = 110 cm = 43 inches. There is about 5 inches difference between Hanamichi's vertical and Kagami's vertical outside of zone. However Hanamichi outlasts Kagami but in a 48 min match it won't be much of a difference. Major edge :Seirin<br /><br />Aight, let's go onto some interesting things. While we can't be sure of who'll be marking who my best guess is to keep Kuroko off ball on defense as much as possible (meaning Kagami will likely be on Rukawa, Hyuga on Mitsui, Izuki on Ryota, Kiyoshi on Akagi and Kuroko staying in the passing lanes. If push comes to shove they'll probably sub out Kuroko for Mitobe to guard Hanamichi.) Izuki vs Ryota, this is interesting as Ryota is very similar to Hayama and Kasamatsu in terms of speed so I don't think it'll be so hard for Izuki to guard Ryota and vice versa as they both faced higher caliber players. As fro Mitsui vs Hyuga this is just a shoot out, first one to miss loses, sorta like Mibuchi vs Hyuga and Mitsui vs Jin. Rukawa vs Kagami... Jesus christ... Kagami can definitely slow down Rukawa and beat him in a 1v1, I mean... He shut down Rakuzan in the zone and stopped Kise, stopped Himuro, went head to head with AOMINE for christ sake (If this was Too vs Sannoh, Aomine stomps lol) so yeah, It'll be much easier for Kagami to guard Rukawa vs the competetion he had to guard while on the other end Kagami usually duo's with Kuroko to get by defenses but I do feel that Rukawa can definitely do some damage but nowhere near the damage that Kagami and Seirin has faced from the GOM (This hurts to write as I'm a Rukawa fan...) Akagi vs Kiyoshi is very difficult to get an outcome as Kiyoshi is more dynamic and more of a guard while Akagi is like a Shaq, Both can stop each other, I'd say their even :P. Now Kuroko will sit in the passing lanes getting steals or Mitobe will atleast try to guard Hanamichi.<br /><br />Overall I'd say their even but with Kagami in zone or true zone Seirin wrecks like an NBA team playing in the Rec league.A person with too much time on their handshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155785469444127979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-17965949612080453522020-11-20T09:52:33.455-05:002020-11-20T09:52:33.455-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.A person with too much time on their handshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155785469444127979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-82546793543620852782016-06-27T06:31:34.218-04:002016-06-27T06:31:34.218-04:00i dont agree mitsui vs hyuga, even when mitsui was...i dont agree mitsui vs hyuga, even when mitsui was out of stamina he pulled off that huge run shohoku had against shoyo before he went out, for me it was the equivalent of entering the zone<br /><br />i dont know about the bench but i probably give it to seirin because i dont think kogure's even that useful..but none of them matters because they probably wont be seeing any play time unless teppei gets injured or mitsui collapses<br /><br />i agree on kagami being better than sakuragi, because sakuragi has only months playing ball and has less training & experience<br /><br />i also dont agree with teppei/akagi matchup since teppei had a hard time against nebuya with his injury, considering the fact that akagi is the #1 center in kanagawa, i believe that akagi isnt a meat head but also has technique (he was the one that taught sakuragi how to play) that will allow him to overpower & match teppei's techniquenobodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00195173264139984877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-7542183884218230872015-08-26T11:03:50.165-04:002015-08-26T11:03:50.165-04:00Damn straight! And I'm glad you enjoyed the p...Damn straight! And I'm glad you enjoyed the post! Sollosihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15034829964174631191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-73051508585656276732015-08-23T23:43:23.350-04:002015-08-23T23:43:23.350-04:00Totally agree with the whole post, especially the ...Totally agree with the whole post, especially the SWAG part. It was just sooo damm epic, but hey... you can't except less from Tensais.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-48236540685410866822014-05-25T10:25:22.897-04:002014-05-25T10:25:22.897-04:00Nice breakdown but the fact is no one can shoot a ...Nice breakdown but the fact is no one can shoot a 100% from outside the arc ever.<br /><br />Frankly Hanamichi's unpredictable bursts of pure monstrous athleticism would tear the Seirin team to shreds. Come on, Who on Seirin could guard a 210 cm, 130 kg guy like Hanamichi ?? <br /><br />Hanamichi was just 189.2 and 75-80 kg. It was like seeing Dennis defend Shaq. Shohoku for the win.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10511910305693420886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-60252201501115455592014-04-05T14:49:58.692-04:002014-04-05T14:49:58.692-04:00You should read the full article before making thi...You should read the full article before making this comment. I did say that Kagami is a better player than Sakuragi, but that Shohoku would beat Seirin because of Sakuragi's unpredictability and talent. Kagami's ability to enter "The Zone" at will and his predisposition to matching the ability of his mark makes him a lot like Sakuragi in a few ways. <br /><br />And if you are really a basketball fan, you should probably know how to spell the word "basketball." Sollosihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15034829964174631191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-35012598342304722582014-04-05T12:39:46.266-04:002014-04-05T12:39:46.266-04:00Sakuragi...why? remember the better the player he ...Sakuragi...why? remember the better the player he is defending the better sakuragi becomes as a player (he's real in-born talent i may say).<br />ex. vs shinichi maki<br />vs sendoh<br />vs sawakita<br />he may have been beaten at the start of the game but he overcame at the end which is the most critical in any basketball game (if you are really a beasketball fan)PoPoy_PaTaLohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15434015707054932538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-48020970407463930822013-11-10T11:49:30.182-05:002013-11-10T11:49:30.182-05:00Thanks for reading! Glad you enjoyed it!Thanks for reading! Glad you enjoyed it!Sollosihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15034829964174631191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-16075776400903438132013-11-10T06:13:04.561-05:002013-11-10T06:13:04.561-05:00Since deciding to rewatch Slam Dunk after over a d...Since deciding to rewatch Slam Dunk after over a decade and closely following the KnB anime (Sports Mangas don't appeal as much to me since I like seeing characters doing their ridiculous moves in a frame-by-frame animation rather than by panel-to-panel stills), I've always wondered what would've happened if these two protagonist teams clashed. Some part of me would keep saying that the super saiyan-esque retardedness of the KnB character abilities would make them capable of trouncing my favourite fictional sports team ever, and another part of me kept saying that Shohoku's awesomeness and unbelievable collective tenacity would help them pull through. So thank you for making this article. You've put my mind at ease. What makes me personally favour Shohoku was the fact that although Seirin has some awesome skillsets under their belt, their two main characters would usually overshadow the rest with their OMGWTFBBQ moves despite their good team-central strategies, with the exception of Kiyoshi at times(in other words, I sometimes see Seirin games as the Kuroko x Kagami show featuring Kiyoshi with guest stars Hyuuga and Izuki). On the other hand, I've always seen Shohoku as a 5-man team. Every member makes a huge contribution to the team, even when and after Sakuragi peaks. I don't know, maybe that's just me? In any case, thanks for this article. It was a very fun read! SHOHOKU ROCKS.1st Level Fatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18378934651380379345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-64206321565600641442013-09-27T05:39:45.342-04:002013-09-27T05:39:45.342-04:00If you have time TT^TT please try If you have time TT^TT please try Ayanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02804128614432196090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-45654367880759976772013-09-26T17:30:05.552-04:002013-09-26T17:30:05.552-04:00Thanks! I appreciate the kind words. Thanks! I appreciate the kind words. Sollosihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15034829964174631191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-14798318982159396682013-09-26T15:04:19.425-04:002013-09-26T15:04:19.425-04:00Man i wish you make a Generation of miracles (or k...Man i wish you make a Generation of miracles (or knb allstars) vs Slamdunk allstars. I really love this post XD so much i view it every time i read knb or rewatch slamdunk..which happens almost everymonthAyanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02804128614432196090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-61527697448284212512013-08-13T01:18:00.518-04:002013-08-13T01:18:00.518-04:00I hadn't taken in Kuroko's ability to foul...I hadn't taken in Kuroko's ability to foul players out under consideration, but if Seirin couldn't foul out Murasakibara, Himuro, Aomine, or Kise when it counted, I doubt that they could for any of Shohoku's starters.<br /><br />The weird thing about Sakuragi is that he has both bizarre athleticism and a mentality that defies his lack of basketball experience, so much so that the best players and coaches in Slam Dunk could never solve him. When Shohoku peaked, nobody in the Slam Dunk universe could stop them and I'm sure they would have beaten Maki and Horishige in the semifinals and finals if Inoue hadn't decided to end the series early.<br /><br />Every time Seirin wins, it's with tricks and misdirection. Every time Shohoku wins, it's with defense and grit. The two main characters are always key ingredients to those wins, and I'd bet on Sakuragi, Anzai, and Shohoku over Kuroko, Riko, and Seirin if this hypothetical match between two fictional teams ever took place. <br /><br />EDIT: I originally posted this without a reply tag. Whoops. Sollosihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15034829964174631191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-89546974818837556152013-08-10T22:56:39.233-04:002013-08-10T22:56:39.233-04:00It's been a while since I last read Slam Dunk ...It's been a while since I last read Slam Dunk and I do know that Sakuragi has managed to improve enough to avoid fouling out every single game. What I want to know, however, is if he has fixed that flaw enough to deal with Kuroko's strategy of causing his opponents to foul. Sakuragi just seems to me like a prime target for that specific type of strategy. It's cheap, I know, but it can be very effective, especially as psychological warfare. It doesn't even have to be Sakuragi who gets fouled out. Take out any of the starting five players like this and Shohoku will be crippled for the rest of the game.<br /><br />Also, I have to disagree with your assessment of Sakuragi's main character X factor. The Generation of Miracles made for great practice for dealing with some of the most outrageous of opponents, making Seirin one of the few teams equipped with dealing with a player like Sakuragi. If Seirin can deal with Murasakibara, they'll come up with an answer for Sakuragi sooner or later. (I'm also posting this under the assumption that Sakuragi at his best is as though he found the zone... in fact, isn't that really what it is?)<br /><br />I do agree that Anzai will come up with a plan for dealing with Kuroko's misdirection trick, though. He may even save Sakuragi from getting fouled out of the game (though I'm not sure if Sakuragi can remember to keep an eye out for Kuroko once he's completely focused on winning the game). I just think that if Riko and Kuroko worked together, they'll be able to come up with some sort of counter-plan.DragonTrainerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14820749606244296584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-12749118869413098732013-08-10T11:14:52.552-04:002013-08-10T11:14:52.552-04:00Thanks!Thanks!Sollosihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15034829964174631191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-63288583410760667132013-08-07T05:35:48.725-04:002013-08-07T05:35:48.725-04:00Awesome post, man! Awesome post, man! Haq Amarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02820275359401447170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-79460149760339457892013-04-26T14:56:31.112-04:002013-04-26T14:56:31.112-04:00Did you finish reading the post? I said that Shoh...Did you finish reading the post? I said that Shohoku wins because of Sakuragi. Sollosihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15034829964174631191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3414576942106516010.post-41701263669076656692012-10-27T20:27:14.113-04:002012-10-27T20:27:14.113-04:00Hyuga's improvements in both skills and leader...Hyuga's improvements in both skills and leadership over the course of the series are valuable. Mitsui is a better defender, but his stamina is too huge a weakness to ignore. I didn't say it was a major edge. <br /><br />Your points on Seirin's bench are only from reputation. Tsuchida and Koganei had their skillsets mentioned during the early games in the first tournament and they started one game in the winter cup, but neither of them have made a jump shot or pulled off a rebound on the manga's pages anywhere - where are you getting the idea that they're better than Yasuda or Kakuta? Two pages of saying "these are our skillsets" don't make them better than either of those other two benchwarmers. And I still think that Kogure is the best bench player on either team. <br /><br />And also, have you even read the full Touou rematch or the Yosen match? Kagami doesn't take mid- or long-range shots, but he can control his body in the air absurdly well and makes post moves and layups all the time, even if he eventually devolves into dunking all the time. I think my comparison to Dominique Wilkins is fair. I stand by my choices.Sollosihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15034829964174631191noreply@blogger.com